Budget Committee - April 22, 2026   4/22/2026

Now we've had some debate about whether a roll call is required, but we're still going to do it in the spirit of formality because it's our first budget committee, so go ahead.

Council Member Bui.

Here.

Council Member Coleman.

Here.

Right, six present and one expected to shortly be Council Member Kim.

the office of financial services staff and team have taken to actually be able to present today and really just want to acknowledge that you guys are maneuvering a bunch of different things right now and so just want to say thank you for being here in person and then also for all of the work that had to go on the back end for this presentation it'll match the HRA presentation later on this afternoon but Director Logsdon I just really say thank you and welcome

But welcome, Joe.

Say a few words.

Are you seeing the PowerPoint?

We are.

I think at some point it'll be very helpful to just kind of know of those that are non-ongoing so like 83 you know

And so just in advance of that, it would be really helpful to have that, to have kind of like the breakdown of when we're expecting to do that, when we're expecting for them to roll off of the funding cycle or if there's any that are kind of at that risk piece again of not being funded for the new year.

That's how we would address it.

Okay, thank you.

Sorry, thank you.

I know generally we've seen FTE growth and I'm curious if you have a ballpark of those numbers and if there's been a difference between special fund FTE growth versus general fund FTE growth.

So we could pull that together really quickly.

Thank you.

Definitely.

Any other questions?

So this is just kind of a high level representation of what our special fund FTEs do.

The transfers come from the HRA.

Right.

It says the funding source isn't such here and I just wanted to

be able to clarify

And just as a follow up then, just about how much of the PED's operation or overall operation costs or FTE's are covered with the HRA funding.

But I would defer to the PED staff, or I can get that answer afterwards.

Keep going.

I know we have like six to seven that get a partial reimbursement from HUD and then outside of that I believe the number of FTE fully funded so to speak although the funding runs across all of the sources is 60 somewhere in the 60 range but if you have that if Brian has that information we can parse that information out

Great.

Next I'm going to move into budget to actuals, but are there any other questions related to special fund FTEs?

Alright, sounds good.

to support PED and so the department will be submitting those internal bills according to their practices.

Alrighty and we have two questions that I see Council President Aker and then Council Member Jost.

So I'm curious if you can speak to that.

you know once per year like it wouldn't exactly reflect reality the closest is probably our payroll which is you know the vast majority of our spending is payroll so we could look specifically at employee expenses divide that total budget by 12 and compare to that and that would be a pretty good indicator.

So maybe it's something we can look at for the future.

All payouts to staff that left are included in that.

Are we concerned about, sorry, through the chair, that this will leave the mayor with not enough budget to make it through the year?

So we have no concerns about managing that.

That's more so a follow up that I wanted to note for the record.

Chair Johnson, and that would be a request of HR, HR to manage that process.

Yes.

So HR managed that process.

Thank you, Chair.

Just with the majority of the expenditures being salaries, is that what we can expect to see basically?

So that's why, on the whole, we're at 24%.

So I'm grateful for all the information being shared today.

So that's also normal.

I see a question from Council Member Coleman.

Thank you, Chair.

I'm assuming we're fine there, but I just want to double check.

I think it's in the tens of thousands, so it's not going to have a major impact on our first property tax payment or I think on our annual property taxes.

Director Logsdon, can you remind us of the sources of the revenue that come into the city attorney's office, the council and the mayor's office?

Thank you.

Yep.

And I look forward to being able to work with you in your capacity as deputy director as well.

Thank you.

if you do have questions or you think of something that you are reading especially through the appendix as well or the attachment which I thought was really helpful when it gave you the breakdown and by funding source don't hesitate to reach out to us as well so we can hopefully put it all on a list and compile it in one request versus many.

Thank you.

Yes, Council President.

Madam Chair, just to be clear, if we sent suggestions, requests for budget committee topics to, at the time, Chair Yang, are you saying that those have been calendared or that you need them sent to you again?

But yes, if you send a request, so next meeting will be the presentation on the biannual budgeting coming from Ramsey County.

for May 13th.

And Kamuda, I'd defer to you just to kind of like which presentations do we have confirmed.

Thank you.

Yes, Council Member Kim.

It's just interesting to have the demographic information and the property tax trends together.

Okay, that sounds good.

So just sharing with my colleagues that's one of my goals for this process this year and looking forward to working with you Chair Johnson.

Council President did you have a follow-up?

I thought I saw it.

Council Member Jost.

But that usually results in the mayor last year basically asking departments to consider a certain cut so that we could bring that number down.

And so I'm curious how you or others would say, like, butts in seats.

what are our priorities and what does that budget look like so really excited for this conversation in general but just thinking about the ways that we we talk about the budget this year but also kind of show our math to our residents I think is just interesting and also important yeah 100% agree yeah I really appreciate just kind of like the the overall discussion especially the ones that kind of encourage us to dig deeper as policymakers and folks who have the authority right ultimately at the end of the year to set that

We have about three minutes or so before I want to head us over to the, oh wait, is it 11.15?

We have some time.

I had 45 minutes in my head, but that's because it's an internal when I want it to end.

of the Year.

With that we are adjourned.